[Totally unlocked so the whole crew can see, after the clones are dumped at the hotel]

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

Nightwing, they branded us! They freaking branded us!

[ooc: warning for swearing in comments. Please read this post for the plot timeline before commenting.]

Comments

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

You're okay with innocents dying for tech. You can try to twist it around all you want, but you don't know we'll die for refusing to help. We do know people will die if we do help because we're supposed to help kill them.

[badassfreakingoverlord]

Yeah, I think the crew, as a whole -- the people who are gonna fight side-by-side with me to beat the Ohm, the people I'm responsible for as a Councilor, the people I've been working with for months now the --

You get the idea. Yeah. The crew is more important. I'm sticking to that. We look after our own.

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

We're not more valuable than other people. We're not more special. We're just people and they're just people, and the minute we start weighing our lives against theirs, when we say us saving the multiverse makes us so important we're allowed to help enslave people is when we start becoming monsters ourselves.

[badassfreakingoverlord]

Yeah.

Playing the 'slavery must be stopped in all ways and in all forms NO MATTER THE COST' card, just makes this into 'I'm right and you're wrong no matter what you say because slavery."

So you know what? This isn't even an argument any more. Why don't you just announce what you really mean: you're gonna fight for the clones no matter what anyone says or does or whatever comes out of it. And the rest of us don't matter.

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

Depends on the clones. Depends on Nightwing. Depends on our orders.

But if we're allowed to? If Command decides that's the best course of action? If we can still maybe get the tech that way and the orders come down that we're supposed to help the clones?

You can best your ass I will.

[badassfreakingoverlord]

But if he doesn't allow it, he's allowing slavery. Doesn't that make him evil if he orders otherwise? Or are you only able to talk this big because you're sure he WILL?

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

It won't make him evil, it'll just make it a wrong choice.

I wouldn't stop you guys from trying to help the government though. That's your choice. I just wouldn't help. That's mine.

[badassfreakingoverlord]

And you wouldn't do it anyway, if he said not to? You'd seriously walk?

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

I'd walk.

[badassfreakingoverlord]

...then what the HELL was all this arguing for?! You hammer on and on and on about how this is RIGHT, this is NECESSARY, we should all be willing to DIE FOR THE FREEDOM OF THESE PEOPLE, and all it takes to back you down is one guy saying 'no'?!

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

Nah, all it takes is knowing you're not getting anywhere without the help of the clones in our group.

How are you going to shut down the resistance?

[badassfreakingoverlord]

...so you'd pitch a passive-aggressive sit-down strike instead?!

I could have respected your conviction but NO, now you -- aaaaaaaaaaaa--


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Minion of the Overlord and official transcriber's note: I am afraid the Overlord has just lost the use of vowels and siblants, and is now flopping desperately on the floor. Therefore I shall assume his curious rage is not intended for transcription. I hope this is acceptable.

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

It's called not obeying orders without openly engaging in insurrection against the Command structure, pal.

And let him flop. I live to frustrate evil guys.