goddamnwingman: (Deep in thought)
goddamnwingman ([personal profile] goddamnwingman) wrote in [community profile] trans_channel2011-07-20 10:24 pm

[Locked to crew on Galilee]

This is Nightwing. If you are with a government agent, please do not bring this message up. Communications should be working on planet, at least with our omnicomms. Ability to contact off planet is still blocked, but this is at least something.

Reports are saying that two people were killed in the attack on the hotel last night, which I assume means the rest of the crew is safe. I've seen Fate, Jr., Kang, Kon, Howard, Zouichi, Lash, Lord Zetta, the Doctor, Dr. Henderson, Rory Williams, Ruffnut and Sakura. Edited to add: And Signum. (Sorry again.) We're all safe and in good health. If there is anybody else unaccounted for in our groups, please let me know immediately.

We were teleported away from the hotel before the missiles hit. We've been guests of the CLF since then.

They claim that the bombings that involve civilian casualties have been orchestrated by the Council as a way to keep the people afraid of change and believing that the clones are too stupid and violent to be given a chance. We have had a chance to speak with their government contact, who has backed this up. In fact, it turns out that the Council themselves are clones, having been in power for the past five thousand years, using the cloning technology to make themselves new bodies and transfer memories and personality into them.

The CLF have offered to assist us in gaining the technology that we're looking for in exchange for a limited amount of assistance. It's an offer I'm seriously considering as I had my doubts about what we could get from the Council to begin with. It also doesn't involve killing anybody, so that already makes me happier.

If everybody could sound off and let me know that you're okay. Please.

((OOC note: This post can only be seen by crew members who are on Galilee. It is open to ALL crew members on Galilee, including those who were not teleported by the CLF. It will not reach Stacy because the off-planet communications are still down.))

[identity profile] so-pregnable.livejournal.com 2011-07-21 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't make any threats. What I mean is that if I really let loose, stopped caring, and just did the "do the job thing" there'd be a trail of red mist and body parts left in my wake.

I have to care. I have to feel guilt. I have to do the justice thing, and the 'we don't kill' thing, and care about people and hold back.

You said that people would jerk me around by my feelings someday. It's possible. But if they weren't there, people like you wouldn't matter, because it's stuff like compassion and caring about even really annoying people that keeps me from being an unstoppable half-alien death machine.

I don't have the luxury of not-giving-a-shit about people that you apparently do.

[identity profile] hit-girl-mindy.livejournal.com 2011-07-21 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
...Yeah, you don't. But its funny how you call it a luxury.

I've read enough comics man. And super heroes go through shit, it sucks. All of these conflicting feelings and justice and all, you go through it. You need it. You have the power to level others.

In my world? Those kinda guys don't exist. What you call luxury is fighting and breaking bones, dealing in blood and death. And I can tell you: someone who wants to kill you will use everything, EVERYTHING, to do it. So there's no allow to hesitate, you just move and go. It's almost funny that you equate it to a luxury. It's not.

So seriously, stop trying to use the kid shit to talk down to me. I don't even know what normal kids fucking my age do.

I'm dealing with this the same way. Don't like it all you want, fine. But don't you condescend to me. Life isn't rosy, none of this is FUN.

[identity profile] so-pregnable.livejournal.com 2011-07-21 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be more sympathetic if it weren't for the fact that I know people as powerless as you that don't deal in blood and death. It's a choice. If you're not good enough to avoid the blood and death, you shouldn't be in the game. But then you're like what, eleven? Twelve? Thirteen? You shouldn't be anyway.

But that's the only reason I've said anything. I didn't have a childhood either until that thing that deaged everyone. First day I broke out of my test tube at Cadmus, I was out there fighting the never-ending battle. And it bothers me to see someone as young as you being that jaded. And what you said was stupid. You know it was. Even if you wanna be pragmatic about it, you know why people baw about their rights.

You want me to not be condescending? You want to be treated like an adult? Then don't dish it if you can't take it. I'm talking to you like I'd talk to one of my colleagues if they were saying a bunch of stupid crap.

[identity profile] hit-girl-mindy.livejournal.com 2011-07-21 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Oh please grow up. You happen to know a few people who just narrowly avoided it. So what? People get lucky. I've seen it happen, big deal. I don't get lucky. I could specifically tell you how fucking unlucky it is, but its not important. Even your spat, it isn't . And its embarrassing how many times I have to say I'm thinking long term. You know as little about my world as I do about yours, and think being young makes you privileged enough not to know.

It's a dumb argument, and that's sad.

What I said was influenced by, you know, everything, the universes and all. And you can justify it to yourself however you want, no big deal to me. But do me a favor and keep to your own conversations. I was talking to someone about how everyone is going to shit, not you. I have my own stuff to deal with. I can't imagine why anyone would get a hard on bitching about useless stuff. To me, this place will blow up, whether by what we do or by the Ohm.

So really. Grow up and do what you "have" to do. I'm already sick of this taking garbage.

[identity profile] so-pregnable.livejournal.com 2011-07-21 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
So sue me if I get a little twitchy when you're talking about clones boo hooing about things like slavery. You don't want people saying something when you say something dumb, lock your comments.

But you're right. Superspeed typing or not, arguing with twelve-year-olds is pointless. I was hoping pointing out it was a jerk thing to say would be enough for you to realize it was a jerk thing to say, but I guess not.

[identity profile] hit-girl-mindy.livejournal.com 2011-07-21 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oh that comment. Yeah, I was talking more about you guys and how pissed you were about losing your rights, not the actual clones. Their lives actually sound kinda shitty in comparison. Then again, if it sounds like I'm belittling, its because I think people's own self righteous attitudes toward making worlds a better place can get them killed and/or manipulated. So to me, yeah, it sounds like wah wah shit. Exactly what I said before. People will say whatever they want to get other people involved. I was pointing out that fact in a conversation with someone else till you jumped in.

Dude, come on. Don't try to sound like you were being a good guy, trying to point out my "shortcomings." You were sounding superior on purpose, because of my age and because you think you're stronger. Even if you are, that doesn't make you sound right. It makes you sound like an asshole.

Edited 2011-07-21 10:55 (UTC)