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Dustin Brooks ([personal profile] windyellow) wrote in [community profile] trans_channel2011-01-12 10:18 pm

ATTN: Crew

Hey guys. It looks like we've gotten some new crew and I would like to get straight to the point. There's a lot of people here who don't know how to defend themselves whether they be kids, teens, or adults, but I think you guys could stand to learn some moves curtesy of the Wind Ninja Academy and one of their former students so anyone who wants to get involved with this let me know.

Rangers, even though this isn't mandatory I'd still like you five to at least watch a class or two.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
You're no good at listening, are you?

Everyone needed to start somewhere, even you, unless you were born with the strength. If you were, kindly keep your opinions to yourself unless you have something constructive to add. Some of us don't believe in sacrificing others. We have a war to win.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Don't tell me about war. I've seen war. I've been fighting wars for the last decade of my life. And you know what? Wars require sacrifice. War means letting people die in order to further the greater good. War means people dead. War against these shits means we're going to be fighting to the hilt; no quarter, no mercy.

It's all about sacrifice! Sacrifice of limbs, of life, of sanity, of everything, all so you can survive and your people come out on top. I'm ready to sacrifice every last one of you fucks if it means we win.

Are you?

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen wars too: my world had seen a hundred years of cruelty and infighting and people sacrificing others for some supposed greater good. Just because it worked for you then doesn't mean it has to be that way now. Many of us are strong in ways you can only dream of, and I believe that every one of us were brought on Stacy for a purpose.

Throwing people away, sacrificing them, is just a lazy way of saying you didn't have what it took to find their true potential. So-called powerful people do that, and after awhile, they begin to lose because they think that way will work in every war.

That is the reality I've seen. People adapt, they get strong, and if they believe in the cause will fight until their last breath. That is called giving all that you have.

That kind of sacrifice I am willing to give.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you're cute.

I doubt you've ever seen real combat. Sometimes you have to make a choice. And let me enlighten you a little, because you seem to think that everyone has "potential" or that you can get by without letting people die: sometimes you have to let people or send people to their deaths in order to win. Sometimes, it's the only way. Sometimes, it's the best way.

You can't save everyone. You can't always get by without casualties.

So here's what I want you do: let the people who know what they're talking about do the fighting. You can go... train people in whatever it is you do. OK? Sound good?

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
And you're infuriating.

But believe what you want. As far as I know, your abilities might be nothing, and YOU might learn a thing or two. So why not brush up yourself.

I think I can handle the battlefield fine, and I've proven that. Your strength is yet to be seen.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
Shit, you think I have to somehow prove myself to you? What the fuck is this, a pissing contest?

If you're not willing to sacrifice everything - including people - then you're going to fail, hard. Life is immaterial next to the cause.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
You're the one who replied to me. I was only telling Dustin I had people who needed training. You're the one trying to make it sound like their fodder, and in THAT case, why would they even want to do this?

You make it sound like I don't know people will die when we fight the Ohm.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
You're certainly acting like it.

Because every good army needs cannon fodder. If they don't want to, you put 'em up there anyway.

What're they gonna do, surrender?

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
I know there will be deaths. But they shouldn't happen because people choose to be fodder. They should happen because they're going to go down fighting, all of them. Each of them are individuals that make up a whole, and they'll all play a part on this fight. That will be what makes them stronger, not just the strength of a chosen few. They'll have ways to come up with new ideas.

If cannon fodder worked against the Ohm, do you really think Stacy would even need us?

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Individuals don't fucking matter in war. You know why? Because individuals don't mean shit if you lose. The strength of a chosen few, more often then not, wins this shit, whether those chosen few are the ones making the strategy at the top for all the little people to follow or an elite unit making a stand and wading through the enemies' blood and guts. You really think that everyone matters? That every person on board this ship can contribute something? That we're all equally worth something for this fight?

Bullshit. A lot of these fucks are civilians who couldn't find their ass with their own hands if it came to a fight and I'll be damned if we waste time trying to teach them how to pour piss out of a boot with instructions written on the heel. We should be working on building up the people we already have, should focus our resources on them and maybe we'll have a fighting chance. Yeah, sure; we can train newbies. Hell, if they wanna volunteer, they can be my guest. But they shouldn't get the bulk of our resources or our time.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You're wrong, and that's why I have a hard time believing you've been in wars. I've seen people, even ones who haven't been as skilled as others, been able to make a difference because in the heat of battle, they had the instinct to make a decision they wouldn't have been able to before. War changes everything about you: you're more alert, you know the stakes. So yes, I do believe everyone on this ship is here for a reason, that they're a part of the greater force that makes up the hand we have against the Ohm. And I've been here long enough to see it happen too.

As for who trains them and how long, that's also up to the individuals on the ship too. You're welcome to believe what you want, but its their time and they'll spend it how they feel they should. I, like they, happen to think it will make a difference.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Believe what you want. My decade of experience says otherwise.

Here's hoping you don't end up dead.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
And my war experience says otherwise.

Hardly. I train my butt off for a reason: I can fight and heal. Getting fatally hurt is out of the question.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's ridiculous. No one's experience can be wrong, just different.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. You're pretty wrong.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you're two.

End of conversation.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
What's the matter? Don't like the truth?

Or maybe you're a coward. Who knows?

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
No, talking to you is like talking to a two year old. "I'm right, you're wrong." Please.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I am right. You're just too stupid to grasp the concept.

[identity profile] kaya-waterwave.livejournal.com 2011-01-13 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
*Communications cut off*